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	<title>Comments on: My Apple TV Take Two Review: Ripping DVDs, Creating a Media Library, and HD Downloads</title>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got my Apple TV last year, so here&#039;s what I&#039;ll add.

AppleTV&#039;s H.264 codec is a newer, better compression algorithm than MPEG2 or DivX, so of course the bit rate will be lower for a comparable output. The proof is in the stunning quality of Apple.com&#039;s 1080p movie trailers of recent years.

There is no need to &quot;crank up&quot; the constant quality slider of the AppleTV preset in Handbrake. You will end up with an M4V file that is as big, or bigger, than the original DVD source (which already suffers from MPEG-2 compression).

My PS3 didn&#039;t come with HD cables either, and these companies should be applauded for thinking greener. I have about 50 USB cables and maybe 4 USB gadgets. If you need the cable, just go buy it.

My biggest gripe is that the AppleTV can&#039;t playback HD video greater than 720p, and even 720p is limited to 24 fps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got my Apple TV last year, so here&#8217;s what I&#8217;ll add.</p>
<p>AppleTV&#8217;s H.264 codec is a newer, better compression algorithm than MPEG2 or DivX, so of course the bit rate will be lower for a comparable output. The proof is in the stunning quality of Apple.com&#8217;s 1080p movie trailers of recent years.</p>
<p>There is no need to &#8220;crank up&#8221; the constant quality slider of the AppleTV preset in Handbrake. You will end up with an M4V file that is as big, or bigger, than the original DVD source (which already suffers from MPEG-2 compression).</p>
<p>My PS3 didn&#8217;t come with HD cables either, and these companies should be applauded for thinking greener. I have about 50 USB cables and maybe 4 USB gadgets. If you need the cable, just go buy it.</p>
<p>My biggest gripe is that the AppleTV can&#8217;t playback HD video greater than 720p, and even 720p is limited to 24 fps.</p>
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		<title>By: Pedro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 16:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey I was wondering if this configuration with an external hard drive with the airport extreme, would also work with an airport express instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey I was wondering if this configuration with an external hard drive with the airport extreme, would also work with an airport express instead.</p>
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		<title>By: JOHN</title>
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		<dc:creator>JOHN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apple has taken out a few patents on remote control technology. You can guess that a future iphone will work as a control device also. They want you to basically carry an iphone around all the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple has taken out a few patents on remote control technology. You can guess that a future iphone will work as a control device also. They want you to basically carry an iphone around all the time.</p>
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		<title>By: alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 01:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Handbrake can&#039;t rip Blu-ray yet. Blu-ray encryption has been cracked, but as far as I know there is no ripping program for it yet. It could be a while before we&#039;re there, because Blu-ray equipment isn&#039;t quite mainstream.

I like the 160 GB Apple TV because it keeps more data locally in case your wifi network goes down or just breaks connection with the Apple TV (happens every once in while for me). You can also download more podcasts and videos locally to the Apple TV instead of doing it on your computer.

Handbrake has an Apple TV preset setting, you simply click on it (it&#039;s on the right-hand side). Another tip is to use the two-pass setting (without a turbo first pass) because it supposedly gives you a better picture through better compression. However, it also results in a bigger file.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Handbrake can&#8217;t rip Blu-ray yet. Blu-ray encryption has been cracked, but as far as I know there is no ripping program for it yet. It could be a while before we&#8217;re there, because Blu-ray equipment isn&#8217;t quite mainstream.</p>
<p>I like the 160 GB Apple TV because it keeps more data locally in case your wifi network goes down or just breaks connection with the Apple TV (happens every once in while for me). You can also download more podcasts and videos locally to the Apple TV instead of doing it on your computer.</p>
<p>Handbrake has an Apple TV preset setting, you simply click on it (it&#8217;s on the right-hand side). Another tip is to use the two-pass setting (without a turbo first pass) because it supposedly gives you a better picture through better compression. However, it also results in a bigger file.</p>
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		<title>By: Albert Mescallado</title>
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		<dc:creator>Albert Mescallado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 21:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is my second email (I&#039;m not sure what happened to the first). What setting do you use to rip your movies? It took me about 9 hours(!) on my Mac mini 1.66GHz Intel Core Duo using a 1TB My Book external hard drive to rip the first disc (approximately two hours) of my Godfather Trilogy. I&#039;m upgrading my computer to a MacBook 2.2GHz. Is it possible to rip an HD-DVD or Blu-ray disc using HandBrake and an HP s3330f with a dual HD disc reader,  store it on a My Book external drive and watch it on the AppleTV? What&#039;s the advantage of getting an AppleTV with a 160 GB drive over one with a 40 GB drive if I use a MyBook eternal hard drive that has a 1TB capacity?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is my second email (I&#8217;m not sure what happened to the first). What setting do you use to rip your movies? It took me about 9 hours(!) on my Mac mini 1.66GHz Intel Core Duo using a 1TB My Book external hard drive to rip the first disc (approximately two hours) of my Godfather Trilogy. I&#8217;m upgrading my computer to a MacBook 2.2GHz. Is it possible to rip an HD-DVD or Blu-ray disc using HandBrake and an HP s3330f with a dual HD disc reader,  store it on a My Book external drive and watch it on the AppleTV? What&#8217;s the advantage of getting an AppleTV with a 160 GB drive over one with a 40 GB drive if I use a MyBook eternal hard drive that has a 1TB capacity?</p>
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		<title>By: Albert Mescallado</title>
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		<dc:creator>Albert Mescallado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 21:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Alan,
I&#039;ve got the Godfather Trilogy and am planning to get an AppleTV. What settings do I need to use in Handbrake? It took me over 9 hours to rip it and store the first disc (approximately 120 minutes) onto a 1TB MyBook external drive, using a 1.66GHz Intel core duo  Mac Mini. Also, what is the advantage of getting a 160GB AppleTV over a 40 GB one when I use the MyBook to store the ripped movies?Is it possible to store Blu-ray or HD-DVD stuff on an AppleTV using an HP s3330f with Blu-ray/HD-DVD dual drive?
Regards,
Albert</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Alan,<br />
I&#8217;ve got the Godfather Trilogy and am planning to get an AppleTV. What settings do I need to use in Handbrake? It took me over 9 hours to rip it and store the first disc (approximately 120 minutes) onto a 1TB MyBook external drive, using a 1.66GHz Intel core duo  Mac Mini. Also, what is the advantage of getting a 160GB AppleTV over a 40 GB one when I use the MyBook to store the ripped movies?Is it possible to store Blu-ray or HD-DVD stuff on an AppleTV using an HP s3330f with Blu-ray/HD-DVD dual drive?<br />
Regards,<br />
Albert</p>
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		<title>By: alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 22:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, thank you for the correction. I&#039;ve updated the article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, thank you for the correction. I&#8217;ve updated the article.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 20:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You mention that Handbrake is Mac only.  As much as I would love for this to be true as I use a Mac, it&#039;s actually available for Windows and Linux as well: http://handbrake.fr/?article=download</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mention that Handbrake is Mac only.  As much as I would love for this to be true as I use a Mac, it&#8217;s actually available for Windows and Linux as well: <a href="http://handbrake.fr/?article=download" rel="nofollow">http://handbrake.fr/?article=download</a></p>
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		<title>By: alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 23:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gerald, the answer to your audio question is here:

http://forum.handbrake.fr/viewtopic.php?f=7&amp;t=4305</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gerald, the answer to your audio question is here:</p>
<p><a href="http://forum.handbrake.fr/viewtopic.php?f=7&#038;t=4305" rel="nofollow">http://forum.handbrake.fr/viewtopic.php?f=7&#038;t=4305</a></p>
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		<title>By: alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 23:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Smitty, as I don&#039;t rip copyrighted DVDs...excuse me, I had to turn my head away from the keyboard and cough a second...I have not experienced this. But here is an answer for you on another site:

http://forum.handbrake.fr/viewtopic.php?f=5&amp;t=266</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smitty, as I don&#8217;t rip copyrighted DVDs&#8230;excuse me, I had to turn my head away from the keyboard and cough a second&#8230;I have not experienced this. But here is an answer for you on another site:</p>
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