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	<title>Comments on: What Is the LCD HDTV Clouding Effect?</title>
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		<title>By: Ivanhoe</title>
		<link>http://myhdtvchoice.com/2008/03/29/what-is-the-lcd-hdtv-clouding-effect/comment-page-1/#comment-16051</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivanhoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 13:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Purchased Samsung UE55c6500 3 days ago, clouding on many places accross the screen. If I had knew about this &quot;common&quot; LCD issue before I would have definitely gone plasma.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Purchased Samsung UE55c6500 3 days ago, clouding on many places accross the screen. If I had knew about this &#8220;common&#8221; LCD issue before I would have definitely gone plasma.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2011 09:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Purchased a Sony EX710/712 46&quot; which was impossible to watch, extremely poor flashlighting on all corners, especially those on the right. Then a washout on the left fading out across ~20% of the screen&#039;s width. Add some clouding in places across the screen and you can imagine how I felt. Plus being an MVA screen panel (vs PVA) it had poor black levels (dark grey in fact). I purchased this based on the review of the 40&quot; (which got top marks), only finding out after purchase that 32&quot; and 46&quot; had different panel types to 40&quot; and 55&quot;. This should be illegal as it&#039;s misrepresentative! Anyway, swopped (with additional 15% in cost) for Samsung UE C6900 which is far superior in every regard. It does has 4 clouds to the left of the screen, but fortunately not THAT noticeable and no-where near the top or bottom (where much more noticeable on letterbox / black bar widescreen content). These can only be seen at night, even with backlight turned to mid setting. Not quite sure if I want to try a replacement - will tweak contrast more tonight and see if I can improve on things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Purchased a Sony EX710/712 46&#8243; which was impossible to watch, extremely poor flashlighting on all corners, especially those on the right. Then a washout on the left fading out across ~20% of the screen&#8217;s width. Add some clouding in places across the screen and you can imagine how I felt. Plus being an MVA screen panel (vs PVA) it had poor black levels (dark grey in fact). I purchased this based on the review of the 40&#8243; (which got top marks), only finding out after purchase that 32&#8243; and 46&#8243; had different panel types to 40&#8243; and 55&#8243;. This should be illegal as it&#8217;s misrepresentative! Anyway, swopped (with additional 15% in cost) for Samsung UE C6900 which is far superior in every regard. It does has 4 clouds to the left of the screen, but fortunately not THAT noticeable and no-where near the top or bottom (where much more noticeable on letterbox / black bar widescreen content). These can only be seen at night, even with backlight turned to mid setting. Not quite sure if I want to try a replacement &#8211; will tweak contrast more tonight and see if I can improve on things.</p>
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		<title>By: aleksander</title>
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		<dc:creator>aleksander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2010 22:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have same problem on right side of the tv (where was the most anoying), then i notice that this clouding things are there only where the screws are on the back side of tv so i decide to un-tide them and problem was gone.
they tide screws so tide that presure is to great on lcd panel behind! try this and you will see many inprovement before even returning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have same problem on right side of the tv (where was the most anoying), then i notice that this clouding things are there only where the screws are on the back side of tv so i decide to un-tide them and problem was gone.<br />
they tide screws so tide that presure is to great on lcd panel behind! try this and you will see many inprovement before even returning.</p>
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		<title>By: Mash</title>
		<link>http://myhdtvchoice.com/2008/03/29/what-is-the-lcd-hdtv-clouding-effect/comment-page-1/#comment-15999</link>
		<dc:creator>Mash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Aug 2010 08:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bout Sony KDL40W4500, it sucks! One time it shows a perfect picture sometime total cloud on the left side! I need to be assisted before I really go nust!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bout Sony KDL40W4500, it sucks! One time it shows a perfect picture sometime total cloud on the left side! I need to be assisted before I really go nust!</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Apr 2010 09:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a Samsung LN46A750 have clouding on 3 of 4 corners, I have noticed its getting worse with age (have had the set about 1.5 yrs) I have friends and family with Sonys and LGs and they haven&#039;t had any problems (although I have read on forums that Sony XBRs have had clouding problems as well). 

With all the horrible customer service stuff I have heard about Samsung, I don&#039;t think I will ever be purchasing another one (always been in a Sony family, think I should go back to the roots). 

I do want to mention one thing, when I first got the set it seemed fine, I had to move it once to do some maintenance and after the move I noticed the clouding, so I am guessing its possible that the pressure on the bezel during the move could have caused some of this, but its silly because a TV should really not be this sensitive (especially such a pricey one).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a Samsung LN46A750 have clouding on 3 of 4 corners, I have noticed its getting worse with age (have had the set about 1.5 yrs) I have friends and family with Sonys and LGs and they haven&#8217;t had any problems (although I have read on forums that Sony XBRs have had clouding problems as well). </p>
<p>With all the horrible customer service stuff I have heard about Samsung, I don&#8217;t think I will ever be purchasing another one (always been in a Sony family, think I should go back to the roots). </p>
<p>I do want to mention one thing, when I first got the set it seemed fine, I had to move it once to do some maintenance and after the move I noticed the clouding, so I am guessing its possible that the pressure on the bezel during the move could have caused some of this, but its silly because a TV should really not be this sensitive (especially such a pricey one).</p>
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		<title>By: reu</title>
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		<dc:creator>reu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2010 02:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>go plasma ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>go plasma ?</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 19:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bought Samsung UN55B8000 and it has been replaced twice for severe backlight bleeding in all 4 corners and 2 big 5&quot;x5&quot; blobs dead center! This second set is even worse! It is going back and getting a full refund. Plasma is the choice now.........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bought Samsung UN55B8000 and it has been replaced twice for severe backlight bleeding in all 4 corners and 2 big 5&#8243;x5&#8243; blobs dead center! This second set is even worse! It is going back and getting a full refund. Plasma is the choice now&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Cris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 08:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow I had no idea about clouding since I&#039;ve had no issues with my first and only LCD TV; Toshiba Regza 42RV530U, but on boxing day 2009 (Canada) I bought two Sony KDL40V4100 Bravia TVs. One is for my sister&#039;s friend and the second is for his brother. I got them for $699 a piece pretty good price, but when setting up my sister&#039;s BF TV I did notice a cloud effect near the center of the TV I didn&#039;t think much of it until I saw some forums about people saying that their Sony&#039;s are clouding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow I had no idea about clouding since I&#8217;ve had no issues with my first and only LCD TV; Toshiba Regza 42RV530U, but on boxing day 2009 (Canada) I bought two Sony KDL40V4100 Bravia TVs. One is for my sister&#8217;s friend and the second is for his brother. I got them for $699 a piece pretty good price, but when setting up my sister&#8217;s BF TV I did notice a cloud effect near the center of the TV I didn&#8217;t think much of it until I saw some forums about people saying that their Sony&#8217;s are clouding.</p>
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		<title>By: LN52A650</title>
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		<dc:creator>LN52A650</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 14:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bought Samsung LN52A650 in February.  Noticed a lot of clouding.  I have had 3 service centers out and they told me it was normal.  It is way to obvious to be normal.  Took pictures and called Samsung for escalation process.  They are reviewing it.  Samsung uses 3 different panels. Samsung&#039;s S-PVA panel, the best quality (if you&#039;re lucky). 
A-MVA panel from Taiwan&#039;s AUO (a notch worse than S-PVA). 
Chinese company Chi Mei&#039;s S-MVA panel (worst of the three).  I hope I get a panel replacement and I hope it is a good Samsung one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bought Samsung LN52A650 in February.  Noticed a lot of clouding.  I have had 3 service centers out and they told me it was normal.  It is way to obvious to be normal.  Took pictures and called Samsung for escalation process.  They are reviewing it.  Samsung uses 3 different panels. Samsung&#8217;s S-PVA panel, the best quality (if you&#8217;re lucky).<br />
A-MVA panel from Taiwan&#8217;s AUO (a notch worse than S-PVA).<br />
Chinese company Chi Mei&#8217;s S-MVA panel (worst of the three).  I hope I get a panel replacement and I hope it is a good Samsung one.</p>
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		<title>By: Mitt Mac Mini-mediacenter &#171; Spridda tankar om allt möjligt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mitt Mac Mini-mediacenter &#171; Spridda tankar om allt möjligt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 11:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] att tv:ns bakgrundsbelysning var för lågt ställd. Då alla LCD-tvapparater lider av så kallad clouding i varierande mån, hade jag för att minska detta dragit ner bakgrundsbelysningen till ett minimum. [...]</description>
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