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Monthly Archives: May 2007

New 720p LCD Vizios Coming to WalMart

New ViziosVizio will be selling a new line of Vizios at Wal-mart. The HDTVs are 720p, ranging in size from 26 inches to 42 inches. I only find the 42 inch interesting. But if they are good quality televisions, maybe I’ll reconsider. I am so close to purchasing the GV47LF (maybe this weekend), it probably doesn’t matter anymore anyways.


GV47LF Price Drop

Costco has dropped the cost of the GV47LF by $100. It is now listed online for $1599. That price is making it awfully tempting for me to pick this up. I took the 32-inch Samsung out of the running. $1000 is too much to pay for that small of a television, now matter how good the TV is.

I added another con to my GV47LF pros/cons list. It is the non-defeatable overscan that causes horizontal stretching. What does that mean? A circle looks more like an oval. A poster on the AVSforum.com GV47LF thread said the picture is stretched 3%-5% of all non-1080p sources.

GV47LF: Back on My List

GV47LF

I was at a friend’s house last night who had the DirecTV HD package on his 32-inch Sony Wega CRT. We were watching the Cavs vs Pistons game, and he pointed out some pixelation during fast movement. This is exactly what I saw on the TVs at Costco. It’s certainly not his Sony CRT creating this pixelation, so it has to be the HD source. I had written off some of the old HDTVs because I thought perhaps the hardware in the TVs were causing this pixelation. Turns out it’s really the HDTV source that is what is lagging.

So, my list of TV considerations are now:

  1. Vizio GV47LF
  2. Samsung LN-T3252H

Samsung LN-T3253H: The Less Obnoxious Choice? (32 inch, ~$1000)

Samsung LN-T3253H

Big HDTVs can be obnoxious. I remember walking into an apartment and seeing a 60-inch Sony XBR with a couch set less than five feet in front of it. The owners obviously didn’t buy the TV for the viewing experience. So, I was thinking, maybe I don’t want an obnoxious-sized TV in my apartment. A visitor’s first impression of my apartment shouldn’t be my TV. This 32-inch Samsung seems to fit my personality a little better. It has one of the top HDTV CNET reviews. However, it seems pretty expensive for only 32 inches of screen. Let’s see, you get 47 inches for $1700 or 32 inches for $1000. Hmmmm.

There’s also another new Samsung LCD (the LN-T4665F) that was just reviewed on CNET that has received the best LCD review yet, so I’m excited to see what this round of LCDs brings. The longer you wait, the better the television you’re going to get.

The Research: the Pros and Cons of the Vizio GV47LF (47 inch, ~$1700)

GV47LF

I went into my Costco yesterday (my first time in a Costco) in Chicago to check it out in person. They had the GV47LF set next to a $2200 Sharp Aqous, and I could really see a difference in the black levels. Another thing I noticed was pixelation during very fast motion, but I’m pretty sure it was just the HD source, not the television, since it was occuring on the Sharp too. I’m still thinking this purchase through, and to help me, I’m writing out my research and my thoughts. Here are the cons of the GF47LF (pros to come shortly). I culled these from various sources on the Internet and gathered them here for your information (note: sources are most notably the CNET review and postings form the GV47LF thread on AVS forum):

  1. As CNET pointed out in their review, the GV47LF’s black levels show lighter than most plasmas and some LCDs. In their tests, the letterbox bars appeared grayer than with the other HDTVs. This is not a problem limited to the GV47LF–it’s common in most LCDs. The black levels of LCD screens are slowly improving, but they still fall short of plasmas. However, there comes a point when black is as black as it’s going to get. Owners of LCDs say these black levels are only noticeable when comparing one HDTV to another. But once you get the screen home, you don’t notice the lightness of the blacks. For instance, you wouldn’t view a shot of space and think, “Wow, space is actually gray!”
  2. Some owners are experiencing audio synching problems, with the audio lagging behind the video. On AVSforum.com, they are debating whether it’s the TV or the HDTV source (cable TV + over-the-air broadcast).
  3. No dot-by-dot aspect ratio mode with 1080i sources.
  4. Nondefeatable overscan causes horizontal stretching. This means a circle will look more like an oval. An AVSforum.com poster claimed the GV47LF stretches the picture 3%-5% of all HDTV sources except for 1080p.
  5. The standard definition viewing experience will be a step down from normal (CRT) viewing.
  6. The remote is almost useless. You’ll have to purchase a new one.
  7. The menus on the television have an almost unreadable yellow text on gray background.
  8. Some owners have reported an annoying speaker buzz.

Now the Pros. Most are fairly obvious:

  1. The price, which is currently $1,599 (with Costco membership). What other flat screen is comparable? Look for yourself. There are 720p plasmas this size or bigger that are close in price, but do you want a 50-inch plasma with 720p?
  2. 1080p, which means it’s future proof. I’m not sold that cable  TV will get to 1080p within a couple years, but I do believe that other kinds of content will, and the ratio of cable TV you watch vs, say, computer (internet) or gaming content will slowly tip toward the latter.
  3. 47 inches. I live in 1 and a half bedroom apartment, and this size TV is perfect. Just on the verge of being too big, but still perfect.
  4. 2-year warranty from Costco. If you buy today and a pixel goes dead in May 2009, you’re covered.
  5. 90-day return policy. If you hate the TV, the only pain you’ll be feeling is having to haul it back to Costco.
  6. Removable speakers. I have need of the speakers, but one day I won’t. It’s very nice to have the option to remove them.

Will I Need an Upscaling DVD Player?

I recently posted on the AVS forums that I was thinking about the Vizio 47″ and that I’d probably be buying an upscaling DVD player too. To my surprise, someone on the forum replied saying to hold off on the new DVD player and just use my current progressive scan player.

Now, HDEngadget is saying something similar too, pointing out that many HDTVs have upscaling already built in. So, it looks like I’ll be using my trusty Philips DVD player at first.


The Vizio GV47LF

I may have decided on a television, the Vizio GV47LF. I just purchased a Costco membership the other day just in case. If I change my mind, I can still take advantage of the membership. There were three main factors for why I chose this television: price, size (w/ 1080p), and the CNET review. Or in other words: 47 inches at 1080p for under $2000 with a decent rating from CNET. I will be going into more detail about this TV on this blog, as there is scant info on the web, and for what there is, it is spread out and diffiucult to discover. I will try to bring all of it together here so it will be easier for you than it was for me to decide whether you want this TV or not.